Went up to Crystal to learn how to snowboard this past week for 3 days. It was the first time I ever did any type of snow sport.
Bit it big time - A LOT. Wiped out, got sucked into the pow and LUVED every minute of it! I'm incredibly sore and can't wait to recover to go back for more punishment! LOL!
After using the rental gear - I realized how important my own boots will be... Couldn't even feel my toe-side edge while trying to carve on the last day, cuz my shins were toast from my boots. Gonna get a pair of Vans with the Boa system - tried on a pair & they feel like heaven on my feet after my trip.
Was wondering if anyone could give me some tips on a good board for beginners. I hear that GNU's rock and Burton customs are good. Also wondering what ppl think about flow bindings - heard some mixed reviews.
Bit it big time - A LOT. Wiped out, got sucked into the pow and LUVED every minute of it! I'm incredibly sore and can't wait to recover to go back for more punishment! LOL!
After using the rental gear - I realized how important my own boots will be... Couldn't even feel my toe-side edge while trying to carve on the last day, cuz my shins were toast from my boots. Gonna get a pair of Vans with the Boa system - tried on a pair & they feel like heaven on my feet after my trip.
Was wondering if anyone could give me some tips on a good board for beginners. I hear that GNU's rock and Burton customs are good. Also wondering what ppl think about flow bindings - heard some mixed reviews.
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Wed, January 2, 2008 - 12:17 PMI belive GNU offers reasonable beginner to mid level boards. Their higher end are more the Lib Techs which are sick. I havent really rode them much but my friend loves the magne traction on the Lib Tech. My other friend that has flows is always the first in them.. doesnt even sit down to strap em on. I have heard they might have a little less support but that could just be the older ones. I ride a Capita wich is made in Seattle.... love it! -
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Wed, January 2, 2008 - 5:48 PMThnx Jarvis - I think I'll check out the GNU's, but will shy away from magnetraction until I have more experience. Will take a look at Capita too. Good to know that I should def ask around about the support of the newer flows. :)
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Wed, January 2, 2008 - 4:27 PMI have fond memories of Crystal Mt. Great terrain and snow. Mmmmm :)
Ok so some things you should know...
Don't get boots because they feel good. There is a bit of a myth out there that snowboard boots are comfortable. They are way more comfortable than ski boots, but if you plan on riding a lot, or with any degree of proficiancy or style, you are going to need some support (unless you happen to have monsterously strong ankles and a penchant for building obscure tertiary muscle groups on the anterior of your shin. Could happen.) If you get lace up boots, ask an old pro how to tie them. This is VERY important. If you get boots that cinch up, also ask an old pro how to do it. I'm working through a third pair of Burton Ions (cinch), they are great boots but I miss my laces. Laces afford much more control and COMFORT because you can isolate parts of your foot. Try as many pairs of boots as you can before you buy them.
As for a board, I suggest something of moderate flex. Your hieght and weight will play a BIG role in what you will like. Also consider what kind of conditions you will be riding in most. In the East it's icy and rocky. Out west it's generally softer. Resort or backcountry? Cruisers or bumps? Glades or trees? Carving or powder?
Mostly, just get out there and riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide.
Welcome to the club.
(has anyone shown you the secret handshake yet?) -
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Wed, January 2, 2008 - 4:31 PMOh...and I meant to ad, you are very pretty. -
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Wed, January 2, 2008 - 5:52 PMAwwwwwwe... Thanks, Jai! :)
There's a secret handshake? LOL!
Tanks for all the tips... I'll be sure to try out more boots before I make any decisions. Not sure what I'll be riding the most since I'm a newbie, but as soon as I get all healed up, I'll be back for more.
Happy New Year!
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Wed, January 2, 2008 - 10:23 PMThe most comfortable pair of boots I've ever worn were '93 Airwalk Freestyles, and they were the WORST boot for heel lift I've ever had. Comfort isn't the main thing here!
I've been riding in DC pumps (Revolutions) boots for the last few years that honestly are the best boots I've ever worn. The removable liners (to dry them out overnight) pump up across the top of the foot and along the sides giving your foot an air cushion that stops binding bite and keeps your heel down in the boot cup to stop heel lift (bad on frontside turns). My oldest daughter "borrowed" them one weekend for a Tahoe weekend and I didn't see them again for three years! Had to buy a new pair just because... She gave them back last season finally because her brother got her a new pair from his rep for xmas. Now I have two! The new ones I wear are stiffer backed than the earlier pair which was the second year they made them, but I like the stiffer in hardpack or crud. The old pair works better in pow because they're more flexible.
Also I agree with Jai on laces being the way to go. Far more adjustable than some of the new lacing systems out there. And yeah, realize that you're going to be doing heavy workouts on your feet and snowboard boots, no matter what brand, get heavy and make your feet tired so you need the support. Both my DC's are lace liners and shell. You can lace the inside to fit, pump them up and then lace the shells to a real comfort level with all the support you need. Try those boots, too, when you get ready to get your own pair.
As to board sizes etc basic rule of thumb is a board that you can set your chin on. There's a myth that women need little boards, like 151 or something, because they're girls. Baloney! Little boards don't float pow worth a shit, and anyone who's seen the kids leaning waaaaay back trying not to do the submarine dive knows better!
And yes, just get as much ride time as you possibly can! And stretch, really get into stretching to keep your muscle injury rate down. And stop when you get tired. You don't have to ride the whole day. I've seen more injuries and wipeouts in the last two hours of the lifts than any other time of the day combined. People get tired and get injured.
There really isn't a secret handshake (you're teasing this person, Jai!) but I'll bet that there certainly is a secret smile after a day of thigh-deep 10% that us old powhound riders all know! I see it in the mirror a lot...
Four inches since dark out my window. It's going to be good again in the morning up above me!! ta-taa all! -
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Re: First-Timer...
Fri, January 11, 2008 - 11:07 AMjust my 2 cents - I love love love love my Flow Pro bindings. Spring for the pros, they are only a few bucks more, but much more control. -
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Fri, January 11, 2008 - 5:51 PM18 years riding for me now, and the FLOWS are the absolute best bindings ever made. I also LOVE my Flow boots. They are a lot stiffer than your other boots, which really balances out with the possible lack of support from other boots. Though I have ridden other boots in Flow bindings and not had any problems.
My personal recommendation for a beginner board. BIG 5. They are way cheap, and since there's only 5 or so manufacturing plants of snowboards in the world, it's still a snowboard. Save the money and spend it on boots and bindings. -
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Sun, January 13, 2008 - 10:13 AMCool... Thanks guys! Still waiting for my ribs to get all healed up, & then I'll be ready to hit the snow again :) -
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Tue, January 15, 2008 - 2:14 PMStoked that you are enjoying the new sport.
As the equipment goes, all posts here have been great. If you are really serious about getting on the mountain alot, and have the time, i would reccomend: Yes, the flows are good, but the PRO line with the solid metal baseplate is really really where it is for flows. Boots: by all means try on lots of boots. Make sure that they feel stiff, no and i mean no heel lift no matter how hard you try. boards, well beginner, a bit flexy and a1.5 base bevel so you are less likely to catch edge. As you improve and figure out what sort of style you ride, think about if you want a quick poppy twin or a directional powder board, and what that means as time comes to think about that.
keep riding, keep those knees bent, shoulders aligned with the board and more weight on the forward foot. stay low and FLEX YOUR ANKLES!!!!!!
smile ride ride, smile smile ride.
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Tue, January 15, 2008 - 6:30 PMSweeeeet... Thanx Dex! I'll be sure to check out the PRO line and thanks for the great tips on the board flex & base bevel - I'm all about catchin less edge :) Really need to work on keeping more weight on the forward foot to. The next time I go back... might try to ride goofy to see what it feels like. I'm a lefty, but am all screwed up in this right-handed world with baseball and scissors, LOL!
big smile, sweet ride.
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